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av-av_heading-67d7f3f826abf70578ee8743d09dd857 av-special-heading-h3 blockquote modern-quote  avia-builder-el-15  el_before_av_hr  avia-builder-el-first '><h3 class='av-special-heading-tag '  itemprop=\"headline\"  >BOOK REVIEW<\/h3><div class=\"special-heading-border\"><div class=\"special-heading-inner-border\"><\/div><\/div><\/div><div  class='hr av-av_hr-bd7e19a5e9c414034c6d495a5e75ccd7 hr-default  avia-builder-el-16  el_after_av_heading  el_before_av_textblock '><span class='hr-inner '><span class=\"hr-inner-style\"><\/span><\/span><\/div><section  class='av_textblock_section av-av_textblock-564067357eb74c20cdd60b282c9b50bd '   itemscope=\"itemscope\" itemtype=\"https:\/\/schema.org\/CreativeWork\" ><div class='avia_textblock'  itemprop=\"text\" ><h3><strong>Incestuel<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>Jean-Pierre Caillot<a href=\"#_ftn1\" name=\"_ftnref1\" target=\"_blank\"><sup>*<\/sup><\/a><\/p>\n<h3><strong>D&eacute;finition<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>L&rsquo;incestuel, selon Paul-Claude Racamier, &laquo;d&eacute;signe et qualifie, ce qui, dans la vie psychique individuelle et familiale, porte l&rsquo;empreinte de l&rsquo;inceste non fantasm&eacute;, sans qu&rsquo;en soient n&eacute;cessairement pr&eacute;sentes les formes physiques&raquo; (1993, p.&nbsp;47).<\/p>\n<p>Il s&rsquo;&eacute;tend &eacute;galement &agrave; la vie psychique groupale, institutionnelle et soci&eacute;tale. L&rsquo;incestuel appartient au registre de l&rsquo;inceste.<\/p>\n<h3><strong>Historique du terme <\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>Ce terme appara&icirc;t dans le rapport <em>Les paradoxes des schizophr&egrave;nes<\/em> pr&eacute;sent&eacute; au printemps 1978 par Racamier au Congr&egrave;s des psychanalystes de langues romanes &agrave; Florence.<\/p>\n<p>C&rsquo;est &agrave; la suite de ses recherches sur la gen&egrave;se des psychoses que Racamier r&eacute;fute l&rsquo;id&eacute;e d&rsquo;une origine pr&eacute;-&oelig;dipienne de la schizophr&eacute;nie. Il ne peut admettre n&eacute;anmoins que toutes les familles pathologiques des schizophr&egrave;nes soient incestueuses. C&rsquo;est alors qu&rsquo;il d&eacute;couvre l&rsquo;incestuel, nouvelle forme le plus souvent agie, parfois hallucin&eacute;e ou somatis&eacute;e de l&rsquo;inceste non fantasm&eacute;.<\/p>\n<p>Par la suite, dans les travaux de ses successeurs apparaissent les termes d&rsquo;incestualit&eacute; (M.&nbsp;Hurni) et de meurtrialit&eacute; (J.-P.&nbsp;Caillot) familiales qui vont caract&eacute;riser les deux versants amalgam&eacute;s de ces &eacute;quivalents d&rsquo;inceste et de meurtre, que sont l&rsquo;incestuel et le meurtriel.<\/p>\n<h3><strong>Questions ouvertes<\/strong><strong> et d&eacute;bats<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>Ces nouveaux concepts innovants d&rsquo;incestuel et d&rsquo;incestualit&eacute; familiale bouleversent notre compr&eacute;hension th&eacute;orique, clinique et th&eacute;rapeutique de toutes les pathologies narcissiques paradoxales et traumatiques telles que les psychoses, les perversions, les somatoses, les addictions et divers troubles du comportement alimentaire et sexuel. D&eacute;sormais, ils nous permettent d&rsquo;aborder l&rsquo;immense continent de la paradoxalit&eacute; des pathologies narcissiques graves. L&rsquo;incestuel constitue avec l&rsquo;inceste agi l&rsquo;antoedipe pathologique qui &eacute;vince l&rsquo;&oelig;dipe.<\/p>\n<p>La relation d&rsquo;objet incestuel appartient &eacute;galement &agrave; la position narcissique paradoxale (J-P Caillot).<\/p>\n<h3><strong>Int&eacute;r&ecirc;ts cliniques<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>Ces concepts permettent dans notre pratique de diff&eacute;rencier l&rsquo;&oelig;dipe de l&rsquo;ant&oelig;dipe.<\/p>\n<p>Dans l&rsquo;&oelig;dipe, les repr&eacute;sentations g&eacute;n&eacute;rationnelles sont dans l&rsquo;ordre des choses&nbsp;; dans l&rsquo;ant&oelig;dipe normal qui contrebalance l&rsquo;&oelig;dipe, le renversement g&eacute;n&eacute;rationnel est fantasm&eacute;, les enfants sont devant les parents.<\/p>\n<p>En revanche, dans l&rsquo;ant&oelig;dipe pathologique, dans la position narcissique paradoxale, existent diff&eacute;rents modes de renversement g&eacute;n&eacute;rationnel non fantasm&eacute;&nbsp;: agi, hallucin&eacute; ou somatis&eacute;.<\/p>\n<p>Ainsi, ces concepts jouent un r&ocirc;le essentiel au cours du travail des diff&eacute;rentes &eacute;tapes du processus psychanalytique ant&oelig;dipien des pathologies narcissiques paradoxales o&ugrave; l&rsquo;on peut observer le passage du traumatique au d&eacute;sir, de l&rsquo;ant&oelig;dipe pathologique &agrave; l&rsquo;&oelig;dipe, de la position narcissique paradoxale aux positions psychiques &oelig;dipiennes.<\/p>\n<h3><strong>Mots connexes <\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>Inceste, incestualit&eacute;, ant&oelig;dipe pathologique, position narcissique paradoxale.<\/p>\n<hr>\n<h3><strong>Bibliographie<\/strong><\/h3>\n<p>Anzieu, D. (1975). Le transfert paradoxal, <em>Nouvelle Revue de Psychanalyse<\/em>, <em>12<\/em>, 49-72.<\/p>\n<p>Caillot, J.-P.&nbsp;; Decobert, S. et Pigott, C. (sous la dir.) (1998). <em>Vocabulaire de psychanalyse groupale et familiale<\/em>, tome 1. Paris: Les &eacute;ditions du CPGF.<\/p>\n<p>Caillot, J.-P. (2015). <em>Le meurtriel, l&rsquo;incestuel et le traumatique<\/em>. Malakoff: Dunod.<\/p>\n<p>Caillot, J.-P. (2024). <em>Le d&eacute;sir et le traumatique.<\/em> Malakoff: Dunod.<\/p>\n<p>Racamier, P.-C. (1980). <em>Les schizophr&egrave;nes<\/em>. Paris: Payot.<\/p>\n<p>Racamier, P.-C. (1992). <em>Le g&eacute;nie des origines<\/em>. Paris: Payot.<\/p>\n<p>Racamier, P.-C. (1993). <em>Le cort&egrave;ge conceptuel<\/em>. Paris: Apsyg&eacute;e &Eacute;ditions.<\/p>\n<p>Racamier, P.-C. (2010). <em>L&rsquo;inceste et l&rsquo;incestuel<\/em>. Malakoff: Dunod.<\/p>\n<hr>\n<p><a href=\"#_ftnref1\" name=\"_ftn1\" target=\"_blank\">*<\/a> Psychiatre, psychanalyste membre de la SPP, il est le co-fondateur avec S. Decobert, C.&nbsp;Pigott et P.-C.&nbsp;Racamier du Coll&egrave;ge de Psychanalyse Groupale et Familiale dont il est l&rsquo;un des anciens pr&eacute;sidents. Il est co-fondateur avec les docteurs M. Hurni et G. 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